- the cabinet will not slip since the acceleration of the truck does not exceed the maximum possible acceleration of the cabinet.
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OpenStax College Physics, Chapter 5, Problem 5 (Problems & Exercises)
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I don't get why in Number b, you didn't divided the g(9.81) by 2???
I also am confused by this, can anyone provide an explanation?
Thanks very much for your question, and sorry I didn't get back to it sooner. It might not be relevant to your course anymore, but hopefully is to other students!
In part a) we divided the truck weight by 2 since the front tires carry half the truck weight (the question tells us this). In part b) on the other hand, we're dealing with a metal cabinet in the truck box. The normal force applied by the truck box on the metal cabinet is the full weight of the cabinet, hence no need to divide by 2. The weight of the cabinet is being supported by only one thing, namely the truck box, whereas the weight of the truck is being supported by 2 sets of wheels, only one of which is applying static friction to the ground since we assume it's a front wheel drive truck.
Just to clarify. The question said "metal cabinet lying on the [wooden] bed of the truck." So, the coefficient in part b should be 0.5 not 0.6.
Thank you Devin.Reid, you're quite right. I made the mistake of assuming the truck box was metal. I have put a note in the Final Answer section about this.
oof. this video should be re-done. your mistake makes it too hard to follow for the answers.
Why do you use the formula for static friction? If it's accelerating (ie., moving), shouldn't it be the kinetic friction formula?
How do you say that 4.9 m/s2 is the maximum acceleration for the truck? We don't know the force that the truck is putting down with the tires. you just gave the force needed to get the truck moving, right?
Thanks for the question jdanner917. The force to accelerate the truck is due to static friction, and there's a limit to how large that static friction force can be. In part (a) we see that the force that the truck is putting down on with the tires is on each tire since it's being pulled down by gravity, and the ground therefore pushes up on the tires with the same force since the truck isn't accelerating vertically. We know the force on the tires, in other words, but not as a number (not in newtons). That's OK, though, since the mass of the truck cancels on both sides of the equation since the friction force is the net force and we can therefore set it equal to . Since there are two tires driving the truck (not 4 in this case), and we're presuming the coefficient of friction of rubber on dry concrete of , the video shows dividing by 2 (since there are two tires) to arrive at 4.9 m/s^2.
Hope this helps,
Shaun
i am confused with part c. why are we not dividing the total weight by 4 because we have 4 wheel drive. or should we be dividing the friction coefficient by 4?
Hello michael,
Thank you for the question. It might be useful to think of this in a different way than I explained in the video. Consider that each wheel is vertically supporting the truck. This is always true, regardless of whether there is 2 wheel drive vs. 4 wheel drive. Each wheel will experience a vertical normal force from the ground. Suppose you calculated this normal force per wheel - it would be , which divided the total weight of the truck, , by 4. Then, let's consider the horizontal acceleration. In part (a) only 2 of the wheels will experience a horizontal static friction force since it's two wheel drive. That force will be 2 times the force per wheel - . This equals the shown in the video. Then, finally getting to your question, consider part (c). The horizontal friction force will be 4 times the friction force per wheel - , which is . Only is shown in the video since I skipped the algebra step of canceling 's.
Hope this helps,
Shaun
Has the video for this problem been updated yet?
So in using metal on wood of .6. the a-max is 4.9m/s2 instead of 5.9m/s2 right? Thus, it is equal to part a (4.9m/s2) ...does that mean it does not slide?
Hi blue,
Thank you for the question (and the reminder to re-do this one...). I've added this note to the final answer to clarify: "the cabinet will not slip since the acceleration of the truck does not exceed the maximum possible acceleration of the cabinet".
All the best,
Shaun
oops I mean coefficient 0.5. (not .6)
I don't get how you relate these different values such as the maximum acceleration of the metal cabinet on the truck bed and the maximum acceleration of the truck itself. The maximum acceleration of part (a) is related to the truck and the road, but in part (b) it appears to be related to the cabinet and the truck bed. So, I don't understand how these acceleration values are directly related, or compared, to answer whether the cabinet will slip. It's difficult for me to conceptualize when I think about, for example, how the cabinet doesn't accelerate relative to the truck bed when the truck accelerates relative to the road. What even is the force that causes the cabinet to accelerate when it slips?
This video was updated on Dec. 8th, 2023